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Hello to everyone.
About a week from now, on October 28, the birthday of an idol who graduated 3 months ago will be coming up. For those of you who are new to this subreddit, in all likelihood you don’t know who this person is, which is understandable and I encourage you to keep reading. For those who do, I hope that day is one of celebration rather than sadness for all of you. With her birthday coming up, I wanted to give a documentary of the short, but impactful journey of the succubus of 5th gen to those who've fallen into the rabbit hole. And while she isn’t officially a part of the group as of today, for many she will always be remembered as the idol who was lost, but never forgotten. Today I’d like to share with you the story of Mano Aloe and her impact on Hololive.
*As a disclaimer, please do not go to any Hololive member streams to discuss this topic. In addition, please do not start arguing with any of the groups or people mentioned in this post.

The Beginning of Holofive

On August 5th of 2020, five new members were announced and declared for the 5th generation of Hololive and would soon be given the nickname “Holofive,” not only because of their status as the 5th generation, but also because they happened to have five members (though most JP generations have that group layout, barring Hololive Gamers and Hololive Gen 0).
【#ほろふぁいぶ】ホロライブ5期がデビュー!!本日よりTwitterにて活動開始!!
🎉Please Give a Warm Welcome to Hololive 5th Generation!🎉 : Hololive
They would subsequently all use Twitter in the days before their debuts, and many flocked to interact with them. It was an unprecedented amount of communication, not only with fans but with their senior coworkers as well. This became a major reason for their sudden boom in popularity before their debuts even started.
Aloe, unfortunately, was a special case. At the time, many remember Kageyama Shien, a member of the 3rd gen of Holostars, as having his Twitter profile locked out and banned for nearly a month the day after his debut, most likely due to the fact that he may have set his age to be 0. Aloe, on the other hand, had been locked out of Twitter the day of her announcement. Cover Corp came out with a statement about it, and Aloe was unfortunately restricted from using Twitter for a couple of days before eventually joining the rest of her crewmates in the festivities.
5th Gen Mano Aloe pulled a Shien on twitter : Hololive
A week later, their debuts would be broadcast every day of the week, with the lineup starting at Yukihana Lamy, followed by Momosuzu Nene, Shishiro Botan, Mano Aloe, and finally, Omaru Polka.
Mano Aloe, the 4th one to debut, is described as this in her bio:
“A headstrong, mischievous succubus-in-training who dreams of becoming the Diva of the Demonic Realm. Can dish it out, but can’t take it. After learning of Hololive from an acquaintance, she decided to come test out her charms in the human realm.”
She was 15 years old when she debuted on August 15, 2020, and was 150 cm. Her birthday is October 28, and she enjoyed watching horror movies, making bento boxes, and singing. She also enjoyed cleaning rooms (besides her own), and had a distaste for bugs of all sorts (including butterflies) as well as a hatred for riddles and studying. Here’s a translation of her slides during her debut.
I translated three slides from Aloe's debut stream : Hololive
On her debut, she sang Koshi Tantan(虎視眈々) as a bold opening that separated herself from the rest of her peers starting off. Many people will remember that she also brandished a vocoder when singing, providing that energetic, autotune-like vibe to the song that many found great to listen to. She also sang the song “Happy Synthesizer (ハッピーシンセサイザ),” as a finisher to her stream, defining herself as an idol who primarily wanted to see herself on the big stage singing for her fans.
One of the quirks of her character design was that one of her horns was smaller than the other; lorewise, it would grow as time went on and she became more mature, and it’s speculated that once she got to her 3d debut, it would be fully grown. Her model also had a position where her tail would hold up her mic like a mic stand, which was dubbed the “akumic,” (Which combines “akuma,” which means devil or demon, and “microphone,” which shortens to mic) and many fanarts made use of that little detail.
sadly we wont see her grow anymore : Hololive
#Holofive Mano Aloe ✨✨ #LustfulSubbubus - Hololive
Mano Aloe, by warayanuko : Hololive
Many might also remember that she was quite open about her clothing and body, going so far as to reveal the panties of her character model that her mother(illustrator) Guchico had drawn up for her on her Twitter (Due to Aloe's Twitter closing down, the tweet in question is unavailable. Since this is official art, I have decided not to post any links here in case this violates any rules, as it is not on the artist's official Twitter either. A quick search for it on Danbooru is the easiest way to find it.) Not only was this in character, but it led to speculation that her personality might have ended up being somewhat similar to Shion’s spoiled brat personality, known as a “kusogaki” by the older Hololive members.
[Kiryu Coco] After 3 months of 5th gen [Aki Rosenthal, Yuzuki Choco, Amane Kanata, Hololive Eng Sub]
After each of the 5th gen’s streams, all of the members who debuted would talk with each other afterwards to chat and interact with the others. Some may remember the cute songs that Momosuzu Nene would sing for each member once they debuted. (Lamy wa Fuwafuwa, La-Lion, Ma! Ma-Ma-Ma-Mano!, etc.) Holofive seemed to be a rousing success. Until disaster struck just a day later.

The Apology and the Beginning of Skepticism

On August 17, 2020, a stream popped up on Aloe’s YouTube channel titled “大事なお知らせ,” which roughly translated to “Important Announcement.” It is privated on her channel as of right now. Cover Corp nor Hololive issued any statement about the stream or anything pertaining to Aloe before it was made, so many were unaware of its contents beforehand, including Reddit:
Aloe important announcment in 15 minutes. : Hololive
The stream itself was around six minutes. In it, Aloe revealed to the audience that she had breached the terms of her contract with Cover Corp by accident. According to her, a Live 2D (L2D) broadcast of her testing her model out was dug up and found out by the public that happened during May of 2020. At the time, Aloe had requested permission from her manager to try out her model on a previously owned account, one that would later expose her private life to a startling degree.
The manager complied with her request and she most likely spent a while trying out the rigging of her model before finishing up. However, neither her nor her manager had actually ended that test, leaving a backdoor for people to find. It was password protected, but someone was able to find it and trace it back to her. This would lead to a multitude of doxxing attempts onto the talent. She would further go on to address rumors and the concerning amount of harassment around her.
According to her, many people had used the private information dug up to start harassing a male acquainted with her; it was speculated that the man was her boyfriend, or something of that status, but she addressed that she and him had no current relationship at the time the video was made and had went their separate ways before her debut.
There were also many cases of doxxing and harassment from people. For those of you who are unfamiliar with the term, doxxing is defined as the action of “search[ing] for and publish[ing] private or identifying information about (a particular individual) on the Internet, typically with malicious intent,” according to Oxford Dictionary. The reason why the L2D leak was extremely serious was that it led to her private accounts being found out and spread across the internet.
A video on twitcast of an utaite with an almost identical voice to Aloe’s was found and posted to other websites, and contained information that many Japanese fans considered sensitive and foreboding of Aloe’s ability to ruin Hololive as a company. As a result, information such as her private twitter account, old niconico account, and even landline address were found out. She received many messages from random strangers to her own household from that. It is unknown what was said in these messages or if she even listened to all of them, but the fact of the matter stood that people knew sensitive information, perhaps even up to where she lived. These private details were not brought up in the apology video in question, but it became one of the biggest points of contention surrounding her. If you’d like more information about the twitcast video in question, I created a post on VirtualYoutubers trying to debunk the allegations against her when the surge of hatred started to pile up. I will not link it in case it violates the rule against leaking information about past lives. It's on my profile though if you're interested.
After this video, Aloe would be suspended from streaming activities for an entire two weeks, and would not be allowed to communicate with any of her fans, nor her fellow Gen 5 members publicly.
The community was immediately embroiled in discussion and speculation. Many were concerned about her stunted growth as a result of the two week ban from streaming; After all, Gen 5 had been growing at an unparalleled rate, so seeing her having two weeks of streaming denied after her debut was extremely detrimental. Many also threw shade at Cover Corp, Hololive’s parent company, as well as Hololive, and Yagoo, Cover Corp’s CEO.
For context, Hololive had been in a series of unfortunate circumstances regarding their talents that led to public opinions about their ineptitude in handling problems, both internally and externally. Some of them include:
Yozora Mel being harassed and stalked:
Yozora Mel just tweeted this. I do not understand Japanese, any idea on what happened? : Hololive

People hearing a male voice during Tokoyami Towa’s livestream after forgetting to mute her mic:
Cover's statement on towa's incident : VirtualYoutubers

The deletion/privating of many Hololive videos:
Hololive current situation megathread/summary : Hololive

Mio taking a break from streaming due to copyright:
Mio is taking an indefinite break from streaming : Hololive

The concern about Aloe being harassed and doxxed by random strangers led to a growing concern about how Hololive would handle the situation, and contributed to the negativity surrounding the entire incident. This would, unfortunately, lead to one of the darkest times in Hololive history.

The Two Week Ban and the Divide

What followed was a massive divide between fans, primarily between Japanese and overseas fans. As a result of the language barrier, overseas fans were not able to deal with the situation as quickly as Japanese fans. The lack of translations led to fans taking it into their own hands to try and assess the situation, leading to a lack of understanding of the entire situation. Many of the translations were misleading or flat out wrong too; For example, a lot of users were very confused about her situation since some translations painted the L2D leak as the same incident as the private twitcast video, which was blatantly false. Many who gave out translations were also very opinionated and lacked the entire picture of why Japanese fans were outraged. Some Japanese comments flooded Reddit, with the idea that overseas fans had no idea about the circumstances surrounding Aloe’s incident and implied an idea of unequal standing between Japanese fans and overseas fans. These were, of course, received poorly, and many were quick to realize that these statements were copied and pasted as if coordinated to offend overseas fans or set a precedent. And they were.
It should be noted that many of the people against Aloe fell under the term “anti.” While it’s a universal term, people who are considered antis deliberately take actions against another person or talent with the end goal of ruining, hurting, slandering, or harassing their target, whether it be through death threats, doxxing, or spamming them with negative comments. Their goal in this endeavor was to disguise themselves as “fans” of Hololive and spread disorder and distrust amongst the community. They’d pose as concerned fans who wanted Cover Corp to succeed, and for Aloe to be fired for the “greater good” of the company and the safety of its talents. This would lead to actual fans sharing the same or similar sentiments to this idea, leading to much more backlash against her compared to previous incidents. After all, the idea of an idol leaking the sensitive information of other talents didn't seem too far-fetched. It was a fear that many, unfortunately, fell victim to.
The initial problem that overseas fans gleamed from Japanese comments was that she had been hiding evidence pertaining to having a boyfriend previously, and that the tweets she had put out on her private account were sexual in nature. Two main tweets were discussed:
  1. She had tweeted and joked about a “sashimi dildo," which was accompanied by a picture of said object.
  2. Largely paraphrased, but she tweeted out that “Is it true that if you become an utaite, it's easy to get laid?,” or something of that extent.
Now before you judge these tweets, do be aware that these were made nearly four years before she even debuted as Mano Aloe; while Hololive requires you to be a legal adult to work at their agency, it’s been speculated that she was pretty young at the time of those tweets. To paraphrase another reddit user, “dumb teenagers will do dumb teenager things.” It’s also worth mentioning that these tweets usually had the dates cropped out to show them out of context and purposefully frame Aloe in a bad light by those looking to defame her.
This led some Redditors to blame the idol culture in Japan quite heavily, and Japanese fans were generalized to fit this perspective. While this may have been the case for some, it definitely was not the case for all. In fact, the majority of Japanese people criticizing Aloe were fixated more on the twitcast video, which I will talk about shortly. Even then, most Japanese fans wished for her return and for her to simply reflect on her mistake. Many on Reddit felt the need to lash out at Japanese fans and their culture in general, to the extent that some comments started becoming borderline racist.
[Aloe] please don't use current situation as an attempt to generalise JPN fans or sow division : Hololive
The second, and much more serious problem, stemmed from a certain part of the twitcast video (Note: This was made in mid-October of 2019, nearly 10 months before her debut). In this video, the girl revealed sensitive information from a talent of another company, specifically addressing the reason for her retirement. She claimed to be an acquaintance of (or acquaintanced with) this person, and stated that they left due to private information being found out and exposed to the public. The problem is that this statement could not be identified as completely true by fans. Many who were familiar with this company and this person remarked that the circumstances surrounding her retirement were quite different from the statement the girl issued, and people began to believe that her statement was likened to a rumor, which many found extremely offensive. They thought that her statement tarnished the name of the character that retired, and that it brought about rumors that were unnecessary in nature. Unfortunately, this sentiment would be lost on the overseas fanbase for a while after the initial news. Even then, many were of the opinion that doxxing and harassing her over such a statement was unjustified. This was the main issue dividing the community: Some fans thought the punishment and treatment from fans were too harsh; Others thought her punishment wasn’t severe enough. And of course, this was exacerbated by the lack of direct communication between both sides. Until she came back, the Hololive community would have to form their own opinions about how to handle the situation.

Support and the Formation of M.A.S.S.

So what did the fans do while they waited for Aloe to return? They showed their support. They made sure to let Aloe know that she had fans who were there to greet her when she came back. They got to work on preparing for her return and spreading positivity throughout the community. Through this ban period, a resurgence of artists shared their reinvigoration for their hobbies as they tried to find a way to show their support for Aloe. People who had editing skills,people who drew, even people who simply wanted to send their thoughts to Aloe flooded the subreddit with heartfelt messages, memes, drawings and other forms of media. People found motivation to pick up old hobbies to show their love for Aloe despite her very short time in Hololive. The entire subreddit, her YouTube channel, and her Twitter account buzzed with life.
Mano Aloe and Fans are waiting... : Hololive
Mano Aloe Minimalist Wallpaper while for Aloe's return~ : Hololive
Mano Aloe, by @hr_x9_ : Hololive
Daily shitpost to show my support to Mano Aloe until she comes back DAY 3 : Hololive
A simple support message for the poor Mano Aloe : Hololive
We miss you : Hololive
From this wave of support for Aloe, a group known as the Mano Aloe Support Squad was formed, a discord server with the goal of showing fan appreciation for Mano Aloe (It would later be renamed the Manotomo Alliance Support Squad). Multiple messages would be posted onto the Hololive subreddit asking people to join their cause, and for the most part it was well-received by the community:
Please help support Mano Aloe! : Hololive
The Mano Aloe Support Squad needs you help! : Hololive
M.A.S.S. had a multitude of goals, but the main idea was to show fan support for Aloe during her two week suspension as to make sure she knew people were waiting for her return. The main form of support was through a group effort to use Aloe’s hashtags to send kind messages and fanart on certain days of the week. This project would be divided based on the timezones of different countries and initiated every day based on the JST timezone. The template usually revolved around sending in a picture of the country you were from, some interesting facts about it, and a kind message to show support for her. Using #魔乃アロエ and #魔の友, Aloe’s Twitter was flooded with warm, caring comments from all around the world in an attempt to show the appreciation fans had for her.
In addition to this, multiple collaborations would be made for when she would return: Small games were made with themes centered around Aloe and her Manotomo’s, the name of which she’d call her fans. Pages and pages of fanart were filled with support for Aloe. Thousands of comments wished the best for her, and that they were waiting for her to come back. Someone even made an entire website dedicated to storing all of these little projects, so I suggest you check it out if you have the time!
Manotomo
Of course, the public support for her wasn’t always a positive influence. It contributed to some of the negatives as well. A couple of days into the ban week, it should be noted that harassment attempts against Aloe had decreased a little. Antis are known to move from target to target once their efforts on one end start becoming fruitless, tiring, or boring, and after a few days of radio silence on her end there didn’t seem to be much going on. There are two notable events, however, that seemed to reignite their efforts to harass Aloe.
The first event was their discovery of the M.A.S.S. server. Through one means or another, they were able to find information about the existence of a group solely dedicated to showing support for Aloe, the exact target they wanted to harass. Whether one had joined the server previously as some sort of insider or through chance, it became clear to them that there was an active overseas group who wanted Aloe back; and that only made their efforts harsher. Once more, they took to Twitter and YouTube to flood Aloe with negative comments and spam, determined to destroy the efforts of those showing support in addition to harassing her.
https://www.reddit.com/Hololive/comments/ik33hb/thank_you_note_to_mass/g3i5y7f/?context=3
The second event was the direct confrontation of fans with antis on 5ch and 2ch (Japanese message boards that are very similar to our version of 4chan). Unfortunately, some overseas fans had gone over to their threads to spam them with angry comments and similar messages on their own turf, which was a terrible idea in hindsight. The point is that fans provoked the hornet’s nest, which led to more and more backlash against Aloe as the week progressed.
While both of these events are debatable in terms of influencing her final outcome, it is a fact that the major outspoken support for Aloe resulted in an equal opposition of hatred and harassment on the opposite side. And unfortunately, as the day of her suspension being lifted got closer and closer, nobody would be able to predict what was about to happen.

Retirement, and Loss

On Monday, August 30, 2020, right when she was about to come out of her two week ban, a statement came out from Cover Corp concerning Aloe’s situation. Due to personal reasons, she would be graduating from Hololive after everything that had happened through a mutual agreement with the company, one that she herself decided upon. She’d later graduate the day after, and her page on the Vtuber wikipedia would eventually be put in the “former members” section:
Important Announcement Regarding Mano Aloe : Hololive
https://virtualyoutuber.fandom.com/wiki/Mano_Aloe
Soon after the news hit, Shishiro Botan, one of the members of 5th gen, came out with an impromptu stream a few minutes after the announcement was made, along with the rest of her genmates. This suggested that this news came as a surprise even to them. All of them reacted differently, but it was clear that all of them were deeply hurt by the news; Lamy and Nene can be heard crying toward the end of their portions of the video. Polka’s serious and deeper voice only added to the gravity of the situation, and Botan took on the role of leading them through the entire stream with a somber tone to her voice. Everything felt like a punch to the gut. The video can be found below. It also has official English subtitles for those who don’t understand Japanese:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fCqDv94ZeuA
Meanwhile, antis were celebrating Aloe’s graduation. On Botan’s announcement stream, there were a few Japanese comments that said things like “SHE’S FINALLY GONE!” and “Stop crying, we know those are fake tears,” amongst other insensitive stuff. Originally, there were Reddit posts that screenshotted these comments, but they should be on Botan’s stream if you’re willing to find them unless they’ve been removed and reported. Many reported that the threads full of antis on 2chan and 5chan were vibrant and ecstatic to see that they managed to get one of Hololive’s idols to graduate. But for the Hololive community, many were heartbroken to witness a new idol, one with so much promise and potential, being harassed out of her dream job.
The news was a massive blow to everyone, and in the following weeks fans were overcome with grief and anguish. Morale on the subreddit dropped. Some climbed out of the Hololive rabbit hole from the sheer shock of Aloe retiring. Some became disappointed in Cover for failing to protect Aloe from the harassment. Others took a break from Hololive in general just to get their thoughts in order. A couple tried to stay positive and tough it out, warning people to never forget this incident. It became one of the darkest eras that Hololive has ever gone through.
HER NAME WAS MANO ALOE : VirtualYoutubers
I still can't believe it : Hololive
"Please witness it! Please!" : Hololive
it was truly fun : Hololive
I was hoping for an epic comeback but got sad instead. Goodbye Aloe... : Hololive
There are no more great days, just days : Hololive
The Worst loss in 2020.... Depression is Back...goodluck Mano Aloe❤️😭 : Hololive
Mano Aloe a lovely gal gone, but not forgotten : Hololive
《Garden of Aloe》posted again to hololive on reddit. Best wishes for Mano Aloe. : Hololive
Goodbye Aloe... : Hololive
You've tried really hard : Hololive
I don't feel so good:) Artist : https://www.facebook.com/monster7320 : Hololive (This one in particular hurts.)
Understandably, many posts were made discussing the entire situation. As soon as the news hit, the new tab was flooded with posts about Aloe's graduation, and it cluttered the subreddit. It got to the point that any discussion posts outside the announcement thread needed to be deleted to keep the subreddit from devolving into utter chaos. Some fanarts stayed up, but nearly all posts about Aloe with the "Discussion" flair were removed for quite a while after the announcement, and people were asked to relocate to the megathread regarding her graduation for discussion. It should be noted that many were unaware of the grander picture, and only saw the moderators deleting posts related to Aloe, leading many to believe that they were forcefully trying to stifle any attempts at discussing Aloe's graduation. This was remedied quickly, but for the first couple of days many were angry to see Hololive deleting the individual discussion threads for seemingly no reason.
mods deleted my tribute video. it's just getting worse : Hololive
Not only that, but people began to criticize Cover Corp for their inability to protect her from the harassment. As stated, after the slew of mismanagement problems behind the scenes, this became the breaking point for a lot of fans. Cover Corp criticism and hatred spiked immensely, with some people berating and feeling disappointed for how Cover Corp handled the situation.
Cover Corp failed Aloe : VirtualYoutubers
About the Cover Corp hate : Hololive
I do, however, want to enlighten some people as to the possible reasons for their actions during this time, since this is very important as to how things were handled. I won’t try to defend or attack their actions, but I do want to make sense of some of the aspects happening during the entire incident.
  • It is important to note that at the same time as Aloe’s suspension, another vtuber was going through a similar rough patch named Sio Kusunoki. While I am unfamiliar with the reason as to why the drama came about in the first place, there was quite a lot of negativity surrounding the incident. The main point is that in response to the hate she was receiving, she decided to continue streaming as usual and did not address the rumors in any capacity. Unfortunately, what resulted was a surge of doxxing, harassment, and vicious comments being left on anything related to her. The problem was that because she had decided to ignore the problem at large, those who took offense with it were immediately able to voice their dissatisfaction with her, and that led to a surge of dislikes on her videos and spamming in her chat. This is most likely the reason for the suspension on Aloe’s part. The idea behind the suspension was not only to visibly appear to be punishing Aloe to any antis, but also to make sure that she wasn’t targeted by waves of hate from the start. And as stated, it started to die down after a few days of inactivity, which was also seen with Lamy, Botan, and Polka’s Minecraft incident.
  • During this time, it’s been said that Cover Corp was understaffed for many of their controversies. As many of you know from experience, Hololive has grown immensely overseas due to a multitude of factors including Covid, YouTube recommendations, and translations becoming popular, such as Fubuki’s Im Scatman video, Matsuri’s Band-aid video, Miko’s GTA N-word video, etc. At the time, Hololive had a sturdy fanbase that was exponentially growing. With the advent of Holofive, it was insane to believe that a vtuber could gain more than 100k subscribers less than a week before they debuted without even posting a video to YouTube, but Shishiro Botan managed to accomplish that easily. According to a comment by one of the staff members, Hololive had around 80 people working for their company, including CEO’s and talent managers. Take into account that during this time, the official company account had around 400k subs, not to mention the growing popularity of streamers like Pekora, Fubuki, and Korone, as well as the rest of Hololive. Their community was growing way more than their own staff were, which would most likely result in the slew of poor management decisions during the 2019-2020 year.
  • Correct me if I’m wrong, but even now, Japanese law dictates that doxxing and online harassment is not illegal as long as it does not lead to physical altercations. So, technically, if you were to post someone’s address or private information online, as long as nothing physically happens to that person, that’s fair game. And that’s where the problem begins. The law literally states that doxxing, an action with the ability to ruin someone’s life, cannot be prosecuted under Japanese law. This was eventually taken more seriously after an incident of an idol being stabbed by an overzealous fan made headlines, but you can still dox someone with a relatively good chance of escaping without consequence.
Thankfully, there were some uplifting moments during these troubling times. Right after the news of Aloe’s retirement became public, Shirakami Fubuki started an impromptu stream of Fall Guys, and many flocked to her to take their mind off of Aloe’s graduation. While she didn’t address the situation directly, the timing and abruptness of the stream made it clear why she decided to stream.
【#FallGuys】FOXBURGERKING 5th【ホロライブ/白上フブキ】
Aki Rosenthal also came out rather quickly with a singing stream with another vtuber named ASHINO, who played the guitar alongside her.
【3D歌枠】25万人記念配信!Acoustic Session Live 1st 【ホロライブ/アキロゼ】
Aloe’s fellow genmates were also quick to show their support for her. Momosuzu Nene in particular was very vocal about her support for Aloe. At the time, there were major concerns with Aloe being depicted in official art or banners tied to Holofive; on the Hololive channel, Aloe’s avatar was no longer shown with the other four members, and the Aloe flair on the Hololive subreddit was legitimately considered for being removed. Nene, however, made her own choice, and decided to remember Aloe in her own special way. If you go onto her Twitter, her banner is a drawing of all the Holofive members, including Aloe. Even during the initial fallout, Nene was insistent on Aloe remaining a member of Holofive, regardless of what happened.
[Vtuber / Hololive] A message of departure from Shishiro Botan to Mano Aloe [Eng Sub]
【Hololive/Eng sub】Nene hopes everyone will not forget Mano Aloe
桃鈴ねね🥟ホロライブ5期生 (@momosuzunene)
Lamy drew Aloe on her stream today : Hololive
The weeks following her retirement, the subreddit was often filled with bittersweet memes and discussion posts about people’s feelings for Aloe and her graduation. Some people were even so distraught that just looking at the rest of Holofive brought back memories of Aloe. Though since then, her fans have gotten better. Every so often, fanarts of her make their way on this subreddit, and while many were, and are still sad about her retirement, many have also come to terms with it and enjoy the occasional fanarts of her. To us, the Manotomos, she has left her mark on Hololive, even though she is long gone.
One last Comfy with Aloe : Hololive
Mano Aloe, by @0_71_Rain : Hololive
Mano Aloe : VirtualYoutubers

The Aftermath and Her Legacy

So what has changed since her retirement? What’s become of Hololive’s 5th generation? What has Hololive done now that they’ve lost one of their idols? The simple answer is that while there are some problems, for the most part they are still going strong. One of the biggest changes that has come from Aloe’s incident is the formation of company measures against doxxing and harassment against their talents, not only from Cover Corp, but Ichikara (Nijisanji’s parent company) as well:
A Statement Regarding Measures Against the Harassment of Hololive Production Talents : Hololive
Ichikara (Nijisanji parent company) has established a team dedicated to "Fighting Libel, Abuse, Defamation, and Offensive Acts against Our Talents" : VirtualYoutubers
Before Aloe’s retirement, both of these companies did not contain any public statements regarding the protection of their talents that were heavily enforced, or seemed to be publicly. However, shortly after Aloe’s retirement, Ichikara came out with their statement seemingly out of nowhere. It’s been speculated that this had been in the works for a while now considering Nijisanji also faced similar harassment months prior to Aloe’s case, but it had been rushed forward in response to Aloe’s situation. Not too far afterwards, Hololive came out with their statement as well, and actually kept their promise; they’ve gone through with multiple C&D’s on channels leaking information from 4chan to YouTube:
"Anti V-Tuber" channels seem to be getting obliterated by Hololive
Hololive just DESTROYED "Anti V-Tuber" YouTube channel by sending Yagoo's Special Forces
Well what about the fanbase? Have they forgotten about Aloe after Hololive EN and everything that’s happened? Well I exist, and this post exists, so there’s that. But in all seriousness, many have not forgotten about Aloe, and continue to remember her to this day. Many continue to wear their Aloe flairs proudly, and others continue to remember Aloe’s influence in Hololive. Many have even used their experience with Aloe’s situation to make the most of Coco and Haachama’s situation by combating antis through reporting and laying low to wait for their idols to come back with great success. I’m typing this in advance, but I assume that her birthday is filled with warm posts from her fans. Hopefully, you’ll be able to send her your best wishes as well if you’d like.

Closing Remarks

This is where her story ends for now. But, the very short memories of her live on in those who were there to witness it. Perhaps in the future, those of us still in Hololive will smile when we remember the succubus that could have been. I hope that once her birthday comes around, you'll be able to join me in wishing her a happy birthday. Whether you were a fan of hers, or are new to Hololive, or just happened to stumble onto this post, I hope I was able to tell her story well.
Her name was Mano Aloe, and don’t you dare forget it.
Edit: Happy Birthday Aloe.
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3-Round NFL Mock 3.0

I work for a humanitarian organization, so just got back to the country after a trip doing disaster relief, so internal clock is all messed, thus the random mock draft at like 4:30 am. Gonna give this a go with some really wild trades early on to make sure you hate it!
Drafttek providing the order.
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1) New York Jets - QB Trevor Lawrence, Clemson
I'm not going to spend much time explaining this one. We all get it. He's elite, the Jets are not. Unless he actually threatens to pull something to avoid it, he'll go #1 to NYC.
TRADE - The Jaguars pull a trade similar to Chicago's in 2017 to secure Trubisky, moving up a single slot to prevent the Giants from sending this pick to a QB-needy team in exchange for their 4th rounder this year and a 2022 4th round selection as well, similar to the Bears-49ers trade.
2) Jacksonville Jaguars - QB Justin Fields, Ohio State
If the Jags don't pull the trigger here, I probably would've had another team do so, as Fields is an incredibly good QB prospect, one who probably would be getting more hype if he was overshadowed by Lawrence at the top. Either way, Jacksonville lands their franchise QB.
3) New York Giants - OT Penei Sewell, Oregon
After letting the Jaguars hope up a bit, the Giants still get their guy in Sewell. Even with Solder coming back next season after opting out of 2020, the Giants still don't have much excuse to pass on Sewell, one of the best left tackle prospects out of college recently.
4) Miami Dolphins (via HOU) - LB Micah Parsons, Penn State
Such a shame for Houston the way things have unfolded with their management and coaching and such, but Miami will be elated to take full advantage, adding the dynamic Micah Parsons to a growing collection of young talent.
TRADE - The New England Patriots make the leap from pick #11 all the way up to #5. They send their 2022 1st round pick and one of their 4th round compensatory picks in 2021 to the Vikings in exchange for their selection here.
5) New England Patriots - QB Trey Lance, North Dakota State
Cam Newton and Jarrett Stidham have combined to throw 3 touchdown passes against 10 interceptions. And given Cam's regression recently and poor injury history, the Patriots really don't have any future player at QB unless Stidham can turn the tide on 2020. Thus, they make the jump up to 5 to take the uber-athletic Lance, who posses some risk, but also incredible upside as a QB.
6) Cincinnati Bengals - G Wyatt Davis, Ohio State
I don't like Davis this high, even if I agree with some that he's one of the best guards prospects recently. But without a trade that makes sense here, Cincinnati may have to just take the best offensive lineman, even if it is a slight reach. At a minimum, they can feel confident locking down a guard spot in front of Burrow with a very talented player for the next 5 years at least.
7) Atlanta Falcons - EDGE Gregory Rousseau, Miami
Atlanta could use a pass rusher, and while we don't get to see Rousseau lining up in 2020, he's still the biggest upside out of any pass rusher in this class. Thus, he slides in here at seven for whomever the Falcons tap to replace Dan Quinn.
8) Dallas Cowboys - CB Tyson Campbell, Georgia
I may be in the minority here, but from what I've seen so far, Campbell has overtaken Surtain as CB1 for me, and Dallas could use a lockdown guy here. Their secondary has been problematic at multiple spots, but this is a good start for the Boys.
9) Washington Football Team - WR Ja'Marr Chase, LSU
While I still can't decide whether I like or hate "Football Team", I do know that I love Ja'Marr Chase, and the Football Team probably would as well, given their lack of options at wide receiver. Like Rousseau, it's sad to not see him in action, but it makes the anticipation for 2021 so much greater.
10) Los Angeles Chargers - OT Jalen Mayfield, Michigan
It may have only been one game this year, but Mayfield looked significantly stronger and better than he did in 2019, and he was already a good player then. He was a huge reason why Michigan had so much success running the ball against Minnesota, and he'll help Justin Herbert put up big numbers as well. Great athlete, can play left side or right side.
11) Minnesota Vikings - G Alex Leatherwood, Alabama
Leatherwood may currently play left tackle in Tuscaloosa, but his best fit at the next level is on the interior, a spot that Minnesota desperately needs to improve. He's powerful and versatile, and helps th Vikings continue building their OL alongside Garrett Bradbury, Ezra Cleveland and Brian O'Neil.
12) Denver Broncos - CB Patrick Surtain, Alabama
Denver is hard to peg here, and similar to the Bengals, I'd love to find a trade down for them, but there doesn't seem to be a clean match to do so. So, Denver sits pat and takes an elite cornerback to plug into their defense.
13) Carolina Panthers - OT Dillon Radunz, North Dakota State
Even after giving up All-Pro G Trai Turner to get Russell Okung, Matt Rhule and Joe Brady both know that Okung isn't a long-term solution, but a place holder. While Taylor Moton expected back on the right side, the Panthers add Radunz to replace Okung on the left side.
14) Miami Dolphins - WR Jaylen Waddle, Alabama
Even with the ankle injury, I still like Waddle a little bit better than his partner in crimson tide (get it?), DeVonta Smith, though I suppose bringing either one of them to Miami to join forces with Tua makes plenty of sense here.
TRADE - The Jets pull off a big one here, sending their first rounder from Seattle (1.29), their 3rd rounder from Seattle (3.93), a 2022 4th and LB Avery Williamson to the Raiders for their pick here at 15.
15) New York Jets - WR DeVonta Smith, Alabama
Hoping over the Detroit Lions, who also need a wide receiver, the Jets put together a package to add some firepower to their offense, which would greatly benefit their new franchise QB, Trevor Lawrence. Smith's route running is lethal, and he's had several big games this season to solidify his stock.
TRADE: The Colts hop in front of the Saints and 49ers here, both teams that may be in the QB (though no guarantee, especially with SF) to secure their guy. They send their 3rd round pick (3.84) to Detroit to make it happen. Detroit is willing to move down after missing out on the Alabama WR's.
16) Indianapolis Colts - QB Zach Wilson, BYU
The Colts have a very talented roster, however, veteran QB Philip Rivers has been more underwhelming than anticipated. Unless Jacoby Brissett or Jacob Eason really step up here, the Colts could very easily be looking for a playmaking QB like Wilson to make them competitive before the big extensions start setting in for their guys.
17) San Francisco 49ers - C Creed Humphrey, Oklahoma
The 49ers have seen some injuries plague their center depth chart, with both Weston Richburg and Ben Garland being out for extended periods of time. Given that neither are very young, and Richburg has injuries and concussions before, perhaps the 49ers want an elite center prospect who will be a bit more durable for them? Seems like a smart idea for a run-oriented offensive attack.
18) New Orleans Saints - CB Caleb Farley, Virginia Tech
I don't really like Trask enough to send him to the Saints outright at 18, even if Drew Brees does retire. Perhaps hanging onto Jameis Winston for a season while adding a high potential cornerback like Farley could give them a bit of time to find a long-term solution at the position.
19) Philadelphia Eagles - WR Rashod Bateman, Minnesota
Eagles fans are insistent that they won't take a linebacker, even if it is their weakest position. Respecting that, we'll give them Bateman, an elite wide receiver who has been guided by former NFL WR P.J. Fleck in Minnesota so far.
20) Detroit Lions - EDGE Patrick Jones II, Pittsburgh
Since the arrival of Matt Patricia, Detroit's pass rush has been non-existent. The recent acquisition of DE Everson Griffen suggests that Patricia may finally be realizing he needs some more dudes who can rush the QB, and few have been as good as Jones this season.
21) Cleveland Browns - EDGE Quincy Roche, Arizona
Similar to the Eagles fans, Browns fans have filled the mentions that Andrew Berry wouldn't ever pick a LB this highly, so elsewhere we look. A very polished rusher with excellent get-off, Roche can easily step in and replace Olivier Vernon opposite of Myles Garrett for the Browns.
22) Tampa Bay Buccaneers - EDGE Kwity Paye, Michigan
Paye is an exceptional athlete, and letting Todd Bowles mold him across from Shaq Barrett could turn him into the devastating pass rusher he could become.
23) Jacksonville Jaguars - DT Christian Barmore, Alabama
The Jaguars take the best player on the board here in Barmore. After seeing their defensive line run over multiple times this season while getting no interior pressure, a guy like Barmore could be a big help for the Jaguars, giving them the foundations of a dominant defense, like the one that propelled them to the AFC Championship Game a few years ago.
24) Buffalo Bills - RB Najee Harris, Alabama
The Bills may have found some decent value with Singletary (third-round in 2019), however, he ranks just 30th in yards this season, and only one rushing touchdown on the year. Thus, the Bills add a big piece in Harris, who has lit up the SEC this season. At this point, I think Harris is at least at the same level that fellow Alabama RB Josh Jacobs was and could even be better.
25) Chicago Bears - OT Rashawn Slater, Northwestern
Perhaps if the Bears liked either of Trask or Jones here, they could pull the trigger on a new QB. However, that would seem unwise, given the danger they'd be in with such a shaky offensive line in front of them. Slater may be a bit short, but he's a first-round caliber offensive tackle.
26) Arizona Cardinals - C Josh Myers, Ohio State
Arizona adds a key piece to their offensive line with Myers, who has been a big part of the high-powered offenses that Ryan Day has put together in Columbus. Now snapping to Kyler Murray, this duo could help Kliff Kingsbury put up similarly strong results at the next level.
27) Baltimore Ravens - G Trey Smith, Tennessee
Perhaps the Ravens could also be tempted by a pass rusher, but I'm not sure Carlos Basham (who I'd have as the next best here) really fits their style. Instead, they turn to the offensive line, and add perhaps the best interior lineman in the SEC to their offense.
TRADE: Washington moves back into the first-round, swapping picks with the Titans. WFT sends 2.40 along with 3.81 and a 2022 3rd rounder to secure a fifth-year option on their pick here.
28) Washington Football Team - QB Kyle Trask, Florida
Trask seems to be an ideal fit with the mentality of a Ron Rivera team. Tough, gritty, hard-working, Trask was not a flashy 5* recruit, but stuck it out at Florida and climbed his way to the top. He's been exceptional this season so far, and gives Washington the QB they need.
29) Las Vegas Raiders - DT Marvin Wilson, Florida State
Both Maliek Collins and Johnathan Hankins are in the final years of their contracts in Vegas, which could bring Jon Gruden to look at a powerful replacement like Wilson. While not as consistent as the year before, Wilson showed in FSU's upset over highly-ranked UNC how dominant he could be for a team like Las Vegas.
30) Kansas City Chiefs - CB Shaun Wade, Ohio State
The Chiefs take arguably the top player on the board in Wade, a versatile cornerback who has excelled both outside and inside at Columbus. Defensive Coordinator Kerry Coombs is excellent with DB's, and OSU has had an outstanding run of cornerbacks lately. He gives KC some help on defense.
31) Green Bay Packers - DT Jay Tufele, USC
Tufele is another one of those dudes that we won't get to see in 2020, but he still finds a nice home in Green Bay, where they could run a run-stuffing DT like him to improve their Super Bowl chances while Aaron Rodgers is still going strong.
32) Pittsburgh Steelers - OT Christian Darrisaw, Virginia Tech
While most would expect Clemson's LT Carman to fill this spot, I think Darrisaw has played much better than Carman (who still has been good). Virginia Tech has seen some fantastic offensive outputs so far and much of that is in part to the play of guys like Darrisaw. He'll be a nice piece for the Steelers.
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33) New York Jets - OT Jackson Carman, Clemson
The Jets found a really good OT in Mekhi Becton, and so they return to the ACC to help find another one in Carman, who could also bump inside to guard easily enough if needed.
34) Jacksonville Jaguars - S Jevon Holland, Oregon
After trading S Ronnie Harrison to the Browns, the Jaguars add a playmaking safety to fill the void there. Holland has made some incredible plays at Oregon and can do so in Jacksonville as well.
35) Miami Dolphins - RB Travis Etienne, Clemson
Two of the first three picks this round from Clemson, Etienne is one of the most explosive backs in the nation and has become a weapon out of the backfield, which Tua ought to enjoy.
36) New York Giants - EDGE Hamilcar Rashed Jr., Oregon State
A tough edge who put on a show last season, the Giants could really use some pass-rushing help, especially after trading Markus Golden to the Cardinals.
37) Jacksonville Jaguars - TE Kyle Pitts, Florida
I'm not as high on one-dimensional tight ends as much as others, but this would be excellent value here for Jacksonville, getting a player many believe could go much higher.
38) Cincinnati Bengals - EDGE Carlos Basham, Wake Forest
Replacing one Carlos with another. Basham gives the Bengals a major piece to their defense, capable of sealing off the edge and putting pressure on QB's.
39) Atlanta Falcons - CB Jaycee Horn, South Carolina
With NFL bloodlines, great physical play at the line, and athleticism to match up, Horn has all the tools to be an excellent CB partner with A.J. Terrell.
40) Tennessee Titans - EDGE Azeez Ojulari, Georgia
One of the breakout players of 2020 so far, Ojulari has put a lot of good tape out there. After moving out of the first round entirely, the Titans add their pass rushing help at good value.
41) Dallas Cowboys - S Trevon Moehrig, TCU
Like I said earlier, Dallas could use a couple of pieces to their secondary, and a well-built safety like Moehrig keeps an elite Texas player in state where he's needed.
42) New England Patriots - WR Terrace Marshall Jr., LSU
After picking up their new franchise QB in the first round, the Patriots get Trey Lance some much help on the outside in Marshall, a talented WR with the ability to win contested balls.
43) Denver Broncos - OT Walker Little, Stanford
After declining Garrett Bolles fifth-year option, and a handful of different players taking turns at RT, the Broncos could use a quality offensive tackle like Little here.
44) Los Angeles Chargers - CB Derion Kendrick, Clemson
The Chargers pick up a talented cornerback here. Kendrick, originally a highly-touted wide receiver coming into Clemson has really adjusted well to corner, and will continue to do so in Los Angeles.
45) Carolina Panthers - LB Dylan Moses, Alabama
Moses slides a bit, as he hasn't looked as sharp as he did before his injury, but still good enough to land here in Carolina, filling a need for Matt Rhule.
46) Las Vegas Raiders - G Alijah Vera-Tucker, USC
The Raiders add a well-built and explosive guard to the mix. Vera-Tucker excelled in pass protection in Graham Harrell's offense, and would keep QB Derek Carr clean as he continues to play exceedingly well.
47) Detroit Lions - LB Chazz Surratt, North Carolina
The Lions need to get quicker at linebacker, with really only 30-year LB Jamie Collins capable of covering tight ends or backs. That's not sustainable. Adding a quick, modern LB like Surratt is.
48) Miami Dolphins - EDGE Aidan Hutchinson, Michigan
The Dolphins add another piece to their defense with Hutchinson, a disruptive and versatile lineman who can play multiple positions inside or outside for Miami.
49) San Francisco 49ers - QB Mac Jones, Alabama
With Jimmy Garoppolo struggling a bit this season, and most of his backups set for free agency, Kyle Shanahan adds an underrated QB here in Jones to take over the show in San Fran soon enough.
50) New Orleans Saints - WR Rondale Moore, Purdue
Personally, have some concerns about Moore in the first due to his size and injury history, but the Saints should have no hesitation adding someone with his explosiveness here at 50.
51) Philadelphia Eagles - CB Marco Wilson, Florida
Only fitting that one of the Wilson brothers ends up in the city of Brotherly Love (I'm hysterical!). The Eagles get younger at cornerback with a versatile corner here.
52) Indianapolis Colts - OT Liam Eichenberg, Notre Dame
The Colts don't have to search too far to find their replacement for Anthony Castonzo, who almost retired this offseason. They give new franchise QB Zach Wilson some protection here.
53) Tampa Bay Buccaneers - DT Jaylen Twyman, Pittsburgh
In the same mold as smaller, quicker DT's like Aaron Donald and Ed Oliver, Twyman pairs well with Vita Vea in Tampa Bay, as the Buccaneers restock their defensive front in the first two rounds.
54) Los Angeles Rams - EDGE Jayson Oweh, Penn State
Oweh is another toolsy edge rusher who needs to fill out his pass rushing arsenal before he becomes a dominant force. But learning alongside Aaron Donald could be just the right fit.
55) Buffalo Bills - CB Elijah Molden, Washington
Few are better cover corners than Molden. The only thing really holding him back is his size at 5'11. He stills fits well into the Bills defense, which utilizes a lot of creative nickel looks.
56) Cleveland Browns - CB Asante Samuel Jr., Florida State
Similar to Molden, Samuel is an excellent coverage guy who will likely be better suited for the slot. However, fitting Samuel in between Denzel Ward and Greedy Williams could be ideal for Cleveland.
57) Arizona Cardinals - TE Pat Freiermuth, Penn State
Perhaps the best offensive player on the board, Kingsbury gets another fun piece to work into his creative offense. Freiermuth can block and catch, making him very versatile to use.
58) Chicago Bears - WR Amon-Ra St. Brown, USC
With some noise surrounding a potential Allen Robinson departure, the Bears may need to look at finding his replacement with a high caliber WR like St. Brown.
59) Tennessee Titans - CB Thomas Graham Jr., Oregon
A very smart and instinctive cornerback, Graham was one of the best at breaking up passes in 2019, and should fit Vrabel's defense well.
60) Baltimore Ravens - WR Nico Collins, Michigan
A big dude with great size and deep-threat ability, he'd really help QB Lamar Jackson stretch the field vertically, clearing out plenty of room for the rushing attack underneath.
61) Seattle Seahawks - EDGE Joe Tryon, Washington
Similar to the Colts and Eichenberg, sometimes the solution can be found in your own backyard, as the Seahawks grab a physically gifted pass rusher in the Huskies top edge.
62) Kansas City Chiefs - C Jarrett Patterson, Notre Dame
Currently enjoying a breakout season at Notre Dame, Patterson has been exceptional this season, opening up big lanes in the run game, something for can do for Clyde Edwards-Helaire in KC as well.
63) Green Bay Packers - OT Samuel Cosmi, Texas
Not as dominant as many hoped he'd be for the Longhorns, Cosmi still has plenty of upside if he can sit for a bit and get stronger in his base, something he likely could be afforded in Green Bay.
64) Pittsburgh Steelers - DL Payton Turner, Houston
With 3 sacks in 3 games so far for the Cougars, Turner's a versatile defensive lineman, capable of competing with Alex Highsmith to replace Bud Dupree, or rotating in to keep Hayward and Tuitt fresh.
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65) New York Jets - RB Kenneth Gainwell, Memphis
With Le'Veon Bell not working out, the Jets add an excellent pass catching back to go with Lamical Perine in their new offense.
66) Houston Texans - CB Eric Stokes, Georgia
A physical cornerback, Stokes should find a home in the Texans defense regardless of who the new regime is, given their need on defense.
67) New York Giants - CB Israel Mukuamu, South Carolina
Another SEC cornerback off the board as the Giants take the 6'4 corner from South Carolina. They hope to pair him with James Bradbury.
68) Jacksonville Jaguars - CB Josh Jobe, Alabama
If Sidney Jones continues to give Jacksonville some quality work at cornerback, then this may not be needed, but if not, Jobe would be an excellent player to bring in alongside Henderson.
69) Minnesota Vikings - DT Marlon Tuipulotu, USC
With Tufele opting out of 2020, Tuipulotu will have a chance to shine as a disruptive 3-technique. If he does so, Minnesota would likely be very interested in that.
70) Cincinnati Bengals - OT Daniel Faalele, Minnesota
After grabbing a guard earlier in the draft, the Bengals add some more offensive line help, this time at tackle where Faalele's long arms will help keep rushers at bay.
71) Atlanta Falcons - WR Tylan Wallace, Oklahoma State
Capable of working inside and outside, Wallace gives Atlanta another capable option behind Julio Jones and Calvin Ridley.
72) Dallas Cowboys - EDGE Victor Dimukeje, Duke
The Cowboys moved DE Everson Griffen already, and have several other ends set for free agency. Dimukeje has been solid for Duke this season and fills a need in Dallas.
73) Washington Football Team - LB Nick Bolton, Missouri
With a deadly defensive front already in place, things should be very easy for Nick Bolton in Washington, cleaning up tackles all over the field.
74) Denver Broncos - LB Baron Browning, Ohio State
Quality linebackers are hard to come by nowadays, and Denver doesn't pass up the opportunity to add an experienced, talented backer like Browning.
75) Los Angeles Chargers - G Deonte Brown, Alabama
After going defense in the second, the Chargers turn their attention back to the offensive line, giving QB Justin Herbert all the time he needs to hit his receivers deep.
76) New England Patriots - Forfeited because the Bengals are tattletales
77) Carolina Panthers - CB Ambry Thomas, Michigan
A speedy cornerback who excels in man coverage, Thomas should help replace CB James Bradbury, who departed for a larger contract in New York last offseason.
78) Detroit Lions - WR Chris Olave, Ohio State
With Danny Amendola headed for free agency, the Lions pick-up a slot receiver for years to come in Olave, who runs crisp routes to separate from defenders with ease.
79) Miami Dolphins - DT Tyler Shelvin, LSU
A massive run-stuffing DT, he gives the Dolphins a nice partner for Christian Wilkins on the interior of their defensive line. Great value here in round three.
80) Las Vegas Raiders - S Richard LeCounte, Georgia
My top defensive player left, this is probably a steal for the Raiders so far into the draft, landing a high quality player at a relative position of need.
81) Tennessee Titans (via WAS) - G Cade Mays, Tennessee
Rodger Saffold is getting old, and the local product in Knoxville ought to give the Titans a nice easy transition when Saffold hangs it up.
82) Cleveland Browns - LB K.J. Britt, Auburn
Finally getting to that need at inside linebacker, the Browns add an experienced leader like Britt to join their defense.
83) Philadelphia Eagles - C Tyler Linderbaum, Iowa
Similar to the Titans and Saffold, the Eagles will need to replace Jason Kelce at center here in the near future, and Linderbaum's athleticism and experience in Iowa's offense make him a great fit.
84) Detroit Lions (via IND) - DT Phidarian Mathis, Alabama
Detroit's defensive line has had some rough outings this year. Inconsistent against the run, they add a run-stuffing specialist like Mathis to solve the problem.
85) Los Angeles Rams - LB Cameron McGrone, Michigan
The Rams upgrade their linebackers with the addition of McGrone, the heir to Devin Bush at Michigan. While not the prospect Bush was, McGrone has plenty of range and can lay the wood.
86) Buffalo Bills - EDGE Shaka Toney, Penn State
Toney sports an excellent get-off, timing the snap well to beat tackles around the edge and disrupt the pocket. He gives Buffalo another edge rusher to develop with A.J. Epenesa.
87) Cleveland Browns - S Paris Ford, Pittsburgh
With Grant Delpit and Ronnie Harrison set to be the primary safety until Harrison's contract is up in 2022, Ford can fill many roles, as the third safety in nickel sets, as depth, or as a special teams ace.
88) Tampa Bay Buccaneers - OT Brady Christensen, BYU
While it's probably too late to find an OT who can step in right away and protect Brady, Christensen could possibly develop into one in a fairly short window after some excellent experience at BYU.
89) Chicago Bears - G Ben Cleveland, Georgia
After picking up tackle help earlier, the Bears another piece to their degraded offensive line. Cleveland's a powerful force on the interior.
90) Arizona Cardinals - CB Paulson Adebo, Stanford
Arizona adds to their defense after selecting offense (centetight end) in the first two rounds. Adebo is a very skilled corner with excellent athleticism to track with wideouts.
91) Minnesota Vikings - QB Jaime Newman, Georgia
Newman is flying under the radar a bit after opting out of 2020 after transferring in from Wake Forest. He was considered a potential first-rounder before that, and could develop as Kirk Cousins replacement while the Vikings rebuild their roster.
93) Las Vegas Raiders (via NYJ via SEA) - CB Kary Vincent Jr., LSU
Gruden and Mayock have a thing for dudes who played on national championship teams, and Vincent is an excellent inside cornerback with championship pedigree. With Nevin Lawson on a 1-year deal, Vincent steps in for Vegas.
94) Kansas City Chiefs - EDGE Rashad Weaver, Pittsburgh
With a handful of edge rushers on expiring deals (Charlton, Tanoh, Okafor) the Chiefs add a well-developed pass rusher in Weaver to fill out the depth chart.
95) Green Bay Packers - WR Dazz Newsome, North Carolina
Getting some explosiveness in the Packers WR corps would be helpful for Aaron Rodgers. Newsome gives great effort as a run blocker and is dangerous with the football.
96) Pittsburgh Steelers - C Landon Dickerson, Alabama
A big interior lineman, Dickerson transferred into Alabama from Florida State and has since become a key piece to one of the top lines in football. He gives the Steelers a ready-to-go replacement when Pouncey retires.
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