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Q: Can I play my digital/disc based games from my PS4/PS3/PS2/PS1?
A: According to Sony, the overwhelming majority of the 4000+ PS4 games will be playable on launch. PS4 games run from the HDD not the Disc, the disc just has the game files for installation. This means that there is no difference between a Disc/Digital game in terms of code, just the original source. Both also get the exact same updates.
You can play your PS4 titles from an external drive, so no need to use the internal (expanded) SSD from the PS5. Although games will probably load faster when you do.
Remastered PS1/PS2/PS3 games are running on a PS4 and so should be counted as among the 4000+ games. So most of these games will work, if not all of them, just like the rest.
If they run on emulation, they might be more susceptible to issues running on the new hardware.
Only PS4 BC compatibility is confirmed. Disc based PS3/PS2/PS1 games have not been confirmed to be playable on the PS5. Sony hasn’t even mentioned any interest in this.
For games submitted by developers to Sony after 13th July 2020, Sony has mandated that in order to patch/remaster the game it has to run on PS5, according to eurogamer.net.
Q: Can I play PS4 games with other PS4 players, while I'm playing it on the PS5?
A: Yes, Sony has confirmed you can play PS4 games with others on PS4.
Q: Will PS4 games running on PS5 have the ability to run better or have better visuals on PS5?
A: The BC modes are called legacy modes, and here your visuals will be the same as running the PS4 game on an actual PS4/Pro.
However running a PS4 game in PS5 native mode / boosted mode, can give you better frames, this can also cause unforeseen issues / bugs. However developers can update their games to run native on the PS5, allowing for higher resolutions, FPS and graphics. All up to the developers choice.
Q: What about my saves and other account data from my PS4 account/PSN account and my PS Plus?
A: There is no such thing as a PS4 account, there is however an PSN account (PlayStation Network account), this is not tied to the PS4. This works for PS3 and Vita as well. This counts for your PS Plus subscription as well.
Your save data can be synced from the cloud using PS Plus. And since you can already move your save data from a PS4 to another using an USB drive, you can move your save data to your PS5 in the same manner.
Q: How much will the PS5 cost and when will it come out?
A: We do not know how much it will cost, most estimates are between $399 and $549, with the $499 being most likely considering the rumors about the production cost being around $450.
For comparison, the PS4 launched for $399, while the production costs was estimated at $381.
Q: Should I wait with buying a PS5 because of:
- My PS4/Service
- Possibility of a upcoming PS5 pro/slim
- THe amount of PS5 games and/or games with actual next-gen graphics
- Upcoming SKU’s like an 1TB 1.65TB model option?
In all fairness, there will be so much more info when the PS5 is released. Wait for that moment to be sure about it, it's still a lot of money.
Q: Should I wait 6 months before buying the PS5 based on my launch date PS4 and PS3 breaking due to common faults in the first gen?
A: Although earlier model products tend to have higher % issues compared to later models, this is usually not that big of a difference. And buying 6 months later gives no guarantees.
According to IGN only 1% of their users was affected by the launch issues of the PS4.
I bought the PS3 when shortages were gone from physical stores, and I pre-ordered my PS4. Both still alive and kicking. My PS3 is being used by my brother in law. Anecdotal yes, and that can go both ways.
Q: Should I wait for a PS5 or get a PS4 Pro now?
A: Yes, you should wait.
The PS5 is a much better investment. Although the PS4 Pro is a good value, it can't play PS5 games and the PS5 can play PS4 games (and on PS4 Pro settings).
For the coming 2 years a lot of games will be releasing for both consoles. There will be PS5 exclusives though.
It will also not hold it's resell value as much, after the PS5 releases (and shortages are solved).
Q: Should I wait with buying new games coming out for the PS4 and buy them on PS5?
A: Since almost all titles will work with BC on the PS5 there is little reason not to buy them now.
If there is an update for the game to make it run native on the PS5, it most likely will be available for your PS4 copy as well. Especially first party titles. Cross-buy has been a thing on PlayStation for while now.
However, so far no guarantees.
When buying physical copies, the cases will look different is some way.
Q: Will updates/installs still take such a long time?
A: Updates/patches will no longer need to dreaded long ‘copying’.
The copying step is not necessary is because the SSD is not based on physical searching, unlike the HDD, which has an arm that reads the data from the disc that makes up the hard drive.
This copying step was made so that all the assets in a game file would be located in the same physical space instead of being scattered all around the drive, so that you reduce the number of searching steps and thus decreasing the time to find an asset.
Same thing happens when you use defragmentation on a HDD base computer.
However, we do not know the exact speed of the 4K Blu-ray drive, so we have no clue about the time it will take to install from disc.
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Q: Is 825 GB enough for next gen game sizes?
A: It's no longer necessary to duplicate game assets when using an SSD, especially one this fast. Although it would still have a performance benefit to do so.
The PS5's hardware decompressor uses Kraken vs ZLIB on the PS4, making the install sizes relatively smaller (somewhere between 10-20%). But we do not know how much more data will be used in next gen games with the higher graphics, this could mean sizes will be smaller, the same or even larger. Nobody is sure about this yet.
825GB will be a good minimum to start and there many options expansion for the future.
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A: Yes, to all
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Q: Will next gen games run on 30/60/120/Variable FPS on 1080p/1440p/2160p or have options/choices between them?
This is up to the developers, as it was with the current generation for 30/60 FPS. We have had games run on 30 and 60 FPS, or “unlocked” FPS. The latter allowed games to run faster than 30 FPS with not at a constant 60, this has a downside on the smoothness feeling of the game.
A lot of gamers are expecting that there will be little to no change to the relative amount of games running on 30 FPS. Or how many games will give you a choice between FPS and resolution.
Q: Will the PS5 support 21:9/Ultrawide?
A: Nothing is known about support for 21:9.Ultrawide, this would also be up to developers to implement. Hopefully more info on this will be available after the PS5 is fully revealed.
Q: Do I need a 4k tv to play on ps5?
Although games will probably look a lot better on most 4K TV's then on most 1080p TV's, there is no 4K requirement. Features like HDR also make games look a lot better.
A lot of gamers actually hope most games will give a 2-4x FPS option on 1080p. So in some cases a 120Hz 1080p could be a better option, depending on your budget.
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A: It's a newer version of HDMI, but this is not a requirement for the PS5. So you do not need it.
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Q: Will the PS5 support playback of 4K Blu-Ray Dolby Atmos?
A: The PS5 will supports 4K Blu-Ray, but so far there is no information on Dolby Atmos.
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Isn’t the Xbox Series X/PS5 way more powerful than PS5/Xbox Series X?
Although we understand quite a bit of the hardware/software engineering of consoles, it is hard to be accurate at this point. Regardless of power, we have seen in the past that even the most powerful console can underperform due to lack of optimization.
Yes the GPU of the Xbox Series X has more CU’s and more TFLOPS, a slightly higher clock speeds for the CPU and mostly higher bandwidth memory. The PS5 has a better Storage to memory Architecture and SSD, 3D audio chip and higher clock speeds of the GPU. Nobody is sure how this will play out, but all the differences aren’t gigantic between the 2 consoles.
If you want to know more, please search the internet/reddit for the already ongoing en plentiful discussions going on about this topic.
Q: Is it true the PS5 / PS5 SSD is more powerful than any PC hardware?
A: The PS5 all round, no not really. The SSD is unique but the term powerful can mean many things.
The SSD is unique that it has 6 priority levels, other than that it’s a PCIE 4.0 M.2 SSD with 5.5 GB/s. PC’s however have the option, to buy expensive 15 to 24 GB/s SSD’s or set up multiple SSD's in RAID (way to combine the speed and storage of 2 or more drives). Although these do not have 6 priority levels, their speed alone will probably makes up for that.
The PS5 does have a unique storage to memory architecture (I/O) design. Which has dedicated hardware for many (heavy) CPU related tasks like decompression. For now, and this is temporary, there isn’t an equivalent for PC. But for now the same goes for any game taking full advantage of this. And consider, when the Sky is the limit, a PC can compensate a lot with 32GB VRAM, 1TB RAM 32core (or higher) CPU’s.
Consoles and PC's are very different beasts. Consoles have great value with impressive performance for the expected price point. PC's are more versatile in price point use and their ability to upgrade/expand.
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Q: Will the PS5 be loud / sound like a jet engine when under load?
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When do you plan on building/buying the PC? Note: beyond a week or two from today means any build you receive will be out of date when you want to buy.asap
What, exactly, do you need included in the budget? (ToweOS/monitokeyboard/mouse/etc)tower, monitor, keyboard, mouse, headphones
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Are there any specific features or items you want/need in the build? (ex: SSD, large amount of storage or a RAID setup, CUDA or OpenCL support, etc)no
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| Total | €1348.04
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